held accountble. this is tough. if you're a lawyer, i'd be saying, are they squeezing these kids to get to the person who ultimately might have been -- >> that's the thing, who is the ring leader, who is responsible for all of is. >> are all of the kids doing this, it was the other guy? >> was there peer pressure? many, many, fascinating points. >> 30 kids. it's going to take some time to get to the bottom, if they ever do. fred pleitgen, great to see you in person. >> good to be here. >> thank you for doing the research, too. coming up, tennessee senator, lamar alexander, is chief of staff led out of his apartment in handcuffs yesterday. again, a chief of staff after a child porn investigation focused on his house. we'll take you live to d.c. outside the district courthouse, try to get to the bottom of what is go on here next. i know. great gas mileage, this is nice.