who almost batch steph curry in a three-point shooting contest this past february at the starting name, what is it about caitlin clark? it's not just that she's white. steph curry stood out from other great black stars in the nba because he played in a way that was appealing and relatable. shooting from the logo, dr. jay was more appealing and brought in more fans and his teammate moses malone, who was a three-time mvp because dr. jay's game was more flamboyant. michael jordan wasn't just great. he was fun to watch caitlin clark is fun to watch. >> yeah. and she is going to be a star pretty much no matter what do you think she'll ultimately be an alternate for the olympic team? >> i think he could be. i think that's possible. and the concern that because she'd be reserve and she wouldn't play that many minutes and therefore, her fans would be up in arms just put the point out there, educate them it would help the olympics. christine brennan made the same point. more eyeballs and limping straw. a lot of eyeballs to begin with, but it's a global event. more eyeballs on those games. how can that be bad caitlin clark is good for the league, good for everybody. in the league. i shall be good for the olympics to it if she got there, she will be there yeah. thank you. great. thank you. as always. and thank you for watching news night. laura coates live starts right now. >> tonight, donald trump tries to rewrite the history of january 6, yet again, as he now re-branded those who stormed the capital plus trump's interview with his probation officer. what we're learning about his virtual sit down and what it might mean for his chances at sentencing and new tonight, elon musk mad at apple over there, deal with openai, the threat he's now making good evening i'm, jim acosta in for laurie votes on this monday night for months, donald trump has heatedly referred to january 6 rioters as hostages. there's obviously no truth to that, but trump has spent much of his campaign constructing an alternate reality for supporters so they can believe a different narrative when it comes to january 6, one that paints the former president as the real victim of the 2020 race. the race he lost the race. he tried to overturn, but now trump is road-tested. a new nickname for the people who attack the capital those j6 warriors, they were worries, but they were really more than anything else. >> the victims of what happened all they were doing is protesting a rigged election that's what they were doing. >> and then the police say go and go in, go in water, set-up. >> that was what a horrible, horrible thing. and you know, that blows two ways. >> warriors, he called them a reality check. if anyone was a warrior that de january 6, it was the brave police officers to face their wrath trying to defend the capital. people like my next guess, sergeant aquilino gonell, who was attacked and beaten as he tried to hold the line on january 6, he's here here's with me tonight, and i'll speak with him in just a few moments. but sergeant good now, is not donald trump's view of a warrior. know instead, this apparently is people like thomas webster. there you see him in the red jacket. prosecutors say he swung a metal flagpole at an officer before choking him with his chin strap. he was convicted and sentenced to ten years in prison. people like dominic puzzle prosecutor said he used a riot shield, a police riot shields is smashed through one of the capital windows, allowing the mob to storm in. he two was convicted and sentenced to ten years. in prison for his actions. now, trump is calling them warriors. trump has openly mused about issuing pardons for january 6 defendants. if he wins reelection advocating for their behalf has become a hallmark of his campaign. trump isn't running from january 6, in many ways, he's running on january 6. as you heard in that sound, a few moments ago, trump said, quote, what a setup that was, what a horrible thing. and you know, that goes two ways. that goes two ways. he said, joining me now, former us capitol sergeant aquilino gonell, he was he has been campaigning for president biden in some swing-state he's also the author of american shield, the immigrant sergeant, who defended democracy, sergeant canal. thank you very much for being with us. we appreciate it. i can't think of anybody better to join me. tonight's talk about this. you've talked about january 6, the injuries that you suffered, the surgeries that you had to go through. i've talked about this many times, physical therapy that you had to go through. you could have died that day and when you hear donald trump call these rioters and insurrectionists warriors what do you think? what's your reaction is a impudence to the sacrifice of many of the officers who risk at all to defend those electoral facial from the both parties we will protecting both nancy pelosi and kevin mccarthy the same thing. same way. we protect chuck schumer's much mechano and all the electrification from both party regardless of how political views. so we were actually doing our job and to hear those type of connotations coming from the foreign president is a desecration to a service we of officer who validly and bailey, definitely the kaprow a day. yeah. i mean, certainly going to you and i've talked about this. i mean, one of the things that worries me about january 6 is that people are just sort of erasing it from their memories there's a lot of talk about whether we have trump amnesia going on. it sounds like there's a little bit of trump acceptance in january 6 upset acceptance what do you think is going on? why do you think there are people who go out to these rallies and applaud and shear when they hear him call people hostages. and in this case, warriors i mean, it's these are the same people that claim to be supported. the police officers. but yet they don't see us. the capitol police and metropolitan police those who defend the capital and our democracy on, that day as such they see us as an impediment to what they set out themselves to do, which was overthrown the world of people on jeremy six. and part of, part of that is the same people who we protect it. >> they had sided with the what the talking points, the foreign presence says that nothing happened if it did something did happen is not as bad as we say, but on jeremy six, there were scared. so scale of the mob that they ran for further live in fear. and that's unfortunate because he's talked about pardoning. yes some of these folks, all of them, i think what do you say about that? i mean, it's it's very unfortunate. again, we protected both parties the same. we were actually doing our job and those people who are in jail right now has been converted. i have been processed through the court system some of them today we're on trial and they were found guilty in a later date. they're going to be sentenced and some of the same people who assaulted me personally i've gone through core multiple times, 23 so far and two weeks ago, one of them got 14 years for assault, multiple officers at the same time these are the type of people that he says that he's going to pardon rising up, telling them they are hostile years political prisoners and who are we the officers to them yeah. well, i think one of the things that is really disturbing about him referring to these individuals as warriors is it's almost as it sounds like he's thinking he sending these people into battle. well than sending them off to war against fellow americans. >> exactly. and that's the other thing is like he says, i think the same statement that it was oh, i set up well, who invoke them? to be there? the kaprow in the first place it wasn't capitol police. it wasn't metropolitan police. it was in the sayyed arms or anything like that jerry six wouldn't happen if he had not told those people in the middle of december 2020 to be at the end the capital for jeremy six, because i worked several chamfer power situation anyway, know that that was happening. that event was the last point of certification. i didn't know that. but i doubt that majority of the people in the american people knew that at all follower knew that onto he said such thing to bring him to invoke them, to come here to the capital four general six. >> well, certainly going now we cannot ever thank you enough for your bravery. what you did on january of six, what's your fellow officers? people like mike for now and harry dunn? we've talked to them so many times over the year, over the years i really appreciate what you did that day. thank you so much. we can't forget and i know you and i were talking about this before the segment. you'd like to see a plaque hanging in that tunnel at the capital that you and others defended that day, just so there is this recognition? correct. >> and this is something that was passed into law two years ago republican speaker of the house, mike johnson, continued to hold that plaque. approval in committee. and i want that plaque to be put in place for the next president, future president, to say. so they could see how a group officer, the name, read the names of the authors who risk at all to preserve our democracy and a day and very shameful for them to continue to hold it up. the same way that they say that they claim to be supported the police. but yet well, another thing that happened was somebody police officers, the capitol police union put a a proposal for two count some of the overtime service that they had done since january 6, to count tours, their retirement and republican on the senate, they blocked. >> all right we're going to continue to follow that as well. we'll stay on top of it. certainly can now great to see you. thanks for having so much today, donald trump clearing a hurdle on his way to being sentenced in new york city. he took part in a court-mandated pre-sentencing interview with a probational officer. normally they are done in person, but trump attended at virtually from florida, were told that took less than 30 minutes at a source told us that trump answered all the questions he was described as accommodating, respectful, and polite. that's quoting from that source, the probation department did not rule out the possibility of a follow-up meeting before his july 11 sentencing for falsifying business records and joining me now to talk about this, cnn legal commentator and former trump attorney chimp tim parlatore. and former commissioner of new york city's department of probation, martin horn. gentlemen, thanks for being with us late on this monday night. appreciate it, martin. >> this was bit of an unprecedented meeting today. a walk us through the kind of questions that the former president was likely asked well, he was sure asked to give his version of the offense. >> he was confronted with the charge against him and asked for his side of the story he was given an opportunity to put forth any mitigating factors that the judge should take into account in imposing sentencing. and i'm sure or at least he was supposed to have been asked about his family situation is financial situation his education is employment history whether or not he's had any physical or mental issues that would interfere with his ability to support himself and i'm sure that he answered them in a way that was favorable to himself yeah. >> and tim, 30 minutes. that seems kinda brief why do you suppose that is? >> well, the new york state presents interviews are much less involved than the federal ones. and so in particular, when you have a case like this where a defendant has been convicted after trial, but they do intend to appeal. they retain their fifth amendment rights through that those appeals. so i have no doubt that his attorneys advised him don't answer any questions regarding the offense and probably hold the probation officer look, he's invoking his fifth amendment. see, you can skip that part of the interview and just go straight to family history and things like that that really shortens the process. >> and martin, how much will the judge judge merchan take all of this into account hard to say. >> certainly this judge knows this defendants it's rare in new york for there to be situation where the defendant has been found guilty by a verdict at trial 95% of the findings of guilt or the result of a plea deal where the sentence has already been negotiated. so this is relatively rare, but again there may be factors that a defendant would want to bring to the judge's attention that has not previously been known. and remember, this interview is confidential, so it's an opportunity for the defendants to share with the judge mitigating factors that he or she might not i want to share with the general public and tim, what about all the comments that trump made outside the courtroom where he railed against the judge, blamed president biden for the prosecution, doesn't that get taken into consideration? >> and i have to ask you when here from sources that trump was bribed as a polite and cooperative sort of thing that doesn't sound like the donald trump that we saw outside the courtroom during the course of that trial. what do you make that? >> distinction there? >> for one thing, when he's outside of the courtroom in front of the cameras, he is both defendant trump, but he's also candidate trump. he's definitely playing it up for the purposes of the campaign. whereas he doesn't have to do that behind closed doors with a probation officer, a lot of the things that he said during those press conferences wouldn't be relevant at all. yeah. to this interview. so in fact, i'm sure that todd blanche said we're not answering any questions about his opinions about the judge or anything like that. let's just stick to his history. and so to the extent that they're asking him questions about his family history is education is business history? i think that that's something that he would be very very common, very accommodating on. so i don't it doesn't surprise me at all, given the narrow scope of what they would be talking about. >> all right. will martin, tim? 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i mean, he's he's basically saying we can't compromise, won one side or the other is going to win here. is that, is that how a supreme court justice should know? i mean, it would seem to me that supreme court justices, when they deliver eight, they compromise all the time as they should. and i think his comments, when contrasted two chief justice roberts are unmeasured. roberts was very careful in how he responded. these types of leading questions and, you know, alito was just at the very least, very sloppy in his answers, but i don't know that it revealed a lot other than the fact that justice alito has a very conservative viewpoint that came across, but he shouldn't be. necessarily articulating it in the manner he he just did. >> yeah, maria, this filmmaker, laura in windsor, we should though, she's the one who went out and did this she went on to say this to justice alito. >> we put it up on screen people in this country who believe in god have got to keep fighting for that, to return our country to a place of godliness to that justice alito replied, i agree with you. i agree with you. now, again, she was posing as somebody who was supportive of him and but she was able to extract some very notable comments and pretty remarkable comments. it is disturbing on so many levels because he is in a position we already saw what he did. he was the one who wrote the argument that got rid of roe v. wade. and he used in at some arcane 18th century law that essentially said that women should be subservient, that we don't have the ability to make these decisions. >> and what he just said to ms windsor i mean, it reminded me of i don't know if you all have washed your feet. >> audience has watched handmade, stale yeah. >> that was gilead but he was described as one thing i was terrifying. there's one thing i wanted to talk about and i don't want to jam the segment because there's other stuff i want to get to, but what's fascinating about this audio of sam alito is in charlie, you know this from these confirmation hearings that make headlines up on capitol in the senate when supreme court justices go through that process there, so choreograph there, so scripted they're told what to say, what not to say, and they're very careful and answering all these questions here is just like a few minutes of audio. got probably more candor from justice alito that we got during the confirmation process. yeah. i was just shocked by how unguarded he was. yeah again, these you're right. >> you've watched these confirmation hearings and they are so scripted, they are so careful not to say anything that might impact how they would have to rule on some matter before them in this case? >> you just do that all away he thought he was just talking to a friendly audience here and was surprised by the by the recording. >> but again he's gotten himself in trouble for a number of reasons now, just because he's not careful. >> yeah. marie, i do want to ask you about this. there's new video tonight of rudy giuliani speaking at a christian event at a church where he speaks in very derogatory terms about the fulton county attorney, fani willis. let's listen to this then. i've got to prosecutors. >> sandi the whole i mean, you know wow. >> america's mayor, ladies and gentlemen, that well, yeah. i mean, once upon a time. yeah. i mean it's almost unfortunate to even bring this up because obviously it's just a horrendous thing to say. but i mean, it also speaks at what in the world has happened to read giuliani the fall from grace was fast and furious and it you know, talking to so many people who used to work with him and know him. they don't know who this person is. they don't know who that man. >> i've known this guy for over 25 years and i don't know that could all i don't recognize them. it sad. >> this is a man who was, he was pro-choice on abortion. he was pro gay rights and but he got swept up with all this. trump's stuff and you just can't is it something about there are so many of them. they just feel like they have to slothouber all over donald. it's like it's it's cultish is held. but it's also kind of want to be relevant to add and pathetic, like kinda hanging on kinda clam and he's getting older. you want to be relevant, you want to be in the conversation. and so you go down this row, you don't want to just be the guy that goes to denny's for the grand slam special. you want to still be invited to speak at events and stuff. >> i don't almost wonder if there's any sort of mental decline there because he had he's commanded such respect at one point in his life. is this all worth it now, like is this the legacy? the he wants to leave his family and the history books because he is now a laughing stock and he will be this is what he's going to be remembered for yeah. what what what a legacy. i mean, he had a he had a good legacy. legacy, get a good legacy going out and the throw it all away. hey, just to be in trump's good graces should have quit at four seasons landscaping. >> but you know, to your point, jim, he's not the only one i've heard so many people say that the moment that they have come into donald trump's orbit, something happens to them. they leave their spines on the table. they leave their character behind, and they are there to just genuflecting the altar of donald trump. >> and that is sad with charlie's saying, it just, just to be relevant, it's just it's just but then there comes the exercise and reputational rehabilitation for many. >> once i've done it, they've been there the whole time and then they then they realized well, maybe i'm a little dirty and i can't wash it off and now they think now, then they tried to make amends as best they can, you know, once once they're no longer no longer close to power, that moment says more about giuliani than fani willis, sorry. charlie, maria, thank you very much. i just had a jury now deliberating the fate of hunter biden. that is federal gun trial. and it was a dramatic day in court with one family member seen weeping someone who was inside the courtroom joins me the assignments are. going off and playing the tornado here i'm thinking i'm going to die and i thought that was it. >> violin earth with liev schreiber. sunday at nine on cnn lumina whitening strips know grok side, no pain i can use them every day if i want he what i want drink what i want, profit aluminium strip and l0 my smile is back on point easy is outdated. >> dmv has two forms of my id think of all the places that can expose your info, lifelong monitors millions of data points for identity theft. there's a problem. we fix it, guaranteed sentenced, you make a sale is now odd with race from 199 for a person per night. >> this is sad those.com or call 1800 sand if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with part sega because they're places who'd like to be for seeker can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar are rare life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin the perineum could occur, stop taking four sika and call your doctor right away at the symptoms of disinfection and allergic reaction or ketoacidosis find anything let me start when i do my friends, i can find anything with myself see something that you like we'll round it will be something wait. >> no, i'm always hot sleep number doesn't match. can i make my side softer? 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that's pretty rough. >> great. i mean, the biden family was there, right? the whole entire trial. so first lady was there almost every day. his sister, his wife, they were their most days and i think throughout the trial, including on closings, they all had different reactions. sometimes strong reactions, right. i mean, i think one thing that sticks out is whenever they played the voice of hunter biden reading his memoir, particularly at the beginning, you saw real emotional reaction from someone the biden family, and i think today they went hard after the prosecutors went hard after his past drug use and used it in very vivid, brutal language. i'm sure for the family to hear. so there was reaction to that yeah. >> tim, i mean, could some of this backfire? i mean, a lot of people have sympathy for folks who were battling drug addiction in the prosecution kind of going after hunter biden on addiction in that way could backfire with at least a couple of the jurors in a way that might. not bode well for the prosecution i think you can. >> i mean, it's something that we saw during the trial with jurors reacting to this they've made him a sympathetic character, which is not something the prosecution normally, once do something also that they didn't really address so much during closing arguments, but i think that may affect the jurors is if you hit him so hard on his drug use do you undermine his ability to really think through and form the requisite criminal intent. so i do think that that could be something that would backfire. >> yeah. and perry, the prosecution during one moment, pointed to the three rows and the courtroom taken by the biden family biden supporters, including the first lady, saying that people sitting in the gallery are not evidence in the case, do we know how that played with the jury? and i mean, obviously that goes without saying, but how did that go over in the courtroom? >> yeah i mean, we don't write we don't know, but obviously the fact that prosecutors did that to me suggests that they feel at least that having the first lady right? the first lady always a pretty popular figure. jill biden is a popular figure, so they obviously were at least fearful of how that would play with the jury, right? this is a pretty remarkable thing. he's the charges themselves aren't the case is not it's a gun case, but the fact that you have the first lady, this this man's mom sitting there every day of the trial and it wasn't just her. i mean, this is, a jury of dealt people from delaware, wilmington city council person, a very popular are from what i understand a well-known pastor and wilmington as that first, there were lots of people that the jury could recognize and people do this all the time. obviously, they're there for support for hunter biden, but i don't know what the family exactly was thinking, but in lots of defendant's bring family with them, people that know them to show that the jury that they are loved supported person have people that early think they're good members good yeah. and tim, i was wondering about i've been wondering about this the entire trial, whether or not the biden family's trying to send the message to the jury to the judge, to the courtroom. this is a personal matter this is a biden family matter what did you make of the family being there in the first lady i mean, being there throughout this case. >> i mean, it's certainly is a lot more sympathetic than back when i used to represent wise guys with their families there are but i think it is one the trump case. i mean, you saw some family members were there somewhere? it is. and it's something that if if in prosecution in this case is kind of on the underdogs politically with this jury, ordinarily said defenses, something you have to address. you have to acknowledge, hey, look, i recognize that there are these these passions and these things, but i'm asking you as the jury to get past that. so i think that the prosecution was right to at least acknowledge it, but don't dwell on it. >> and i think that it is something that jurors look at it's one of the reasons why you want to have the family there if the family can be sympathetic. right. all right. tim perry thanks very much. really appreciate it in the meantime, elon musk giving a big warnings and iy is threatening to ban apple devices at his company's next you 19th, cnn celebrated juneteenth, his by john legend, eddie lewbel you robinson, we still have a lot of work to do. >> june team celebrating freedom and legacy. wednesday, june 19 at ten on cnn in an detect this. >> living with hiv. robert learned he can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why he switched to nevado divider was a complete hiv treatment for some adults. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines to help keep you undetectable, than davon detect this morning to learn that most hiv pills contain three or for medicines, devito is as effective with just two if you have hepatitis b, don't stop to vada without talking to your doctor. don't take to vada. if you're allergic to its ingredients are taking dofetilide. this can cause serious or life-threatening side effects if you have a rash or allergic reactions, symptoms stopped to vado and get medical help right away, serious or life-threatening lactic acid buildup and liver problems can occur. tell your doctor if you have kidney or liver problems or if you are pregnant? 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is this a threat? is that what's going on? >> it is so elon musk, just raise $6 billion for his own competitive ai company called xii and there's also some sort tensions and feelings because he was a co-founder of openai. many years ago, he left in 2015 teen arguing that they weren't doing the best at safety and data protection. and so you can see why he's going after apple now for this partnership. but honestly gym, the whole thing just feels really petty. >> yeah. why did he can't own everything? but when it comes to safety and security, does allowing open ai to integrate into the iphone make the product less safe? i mean, we know elon musk has he has issued these warnings. he was up on capitol hill recently saying ai could lead to an extinction event or whatever. we hear from folks who are concerned about this sort of thing. you don't want to conflate two issues. so if we don't regulate ai at all, yes, it could lead to some really bad consequences. but looking at this narrowly about whether or not apple partnering with openai is some essential privacy threat is not the same thing as it being a long-term threat to humanity. apple has rolled out so many different apps across devices. it has rolled out different privacy features that you and i are used to. how many times have you clicked? ask app not to track me. >> yeah, they have privacy measures in place and the other thing to note, jim, apple works with millions of developers anytime you're downloading an app in an app store, that's a third party developer that apple allows on its platform, there are plenty of sun security measures in place to make sure that it's safe. >> yeah. and we already have ai in our phones anyway. i mean, i was looking at instagram recently and i noticed, okay, there's an ai function on instagram, so it's there, it's happening part of the promisee, the privacy issue to jim is consumers have to be aware of what they're sharing. apple is going to protect your data from openai that's part of their promise here. but it's on you not to share anything that you think is so sensitive that you wouldn't want it to potentially be breached. they don't put your credit card information in chatgpt? yeah. and openai as deals with both microsoft and apple i mean, open ai seems to be kind of cornering the market here what are the implications there? so microsoft is a huge backer of openai. >> they own 49% of it. and that means that openai will be the primary company that gets access to all of its products, like linkedin et cetera. openai is also taking the lead on striking deals with a bunch of ip holders. think about news publishers, et cetera. >> they are competing against google and a few other companies. >> but really openai has become the most recognizable name because they're consumer-facing app chatgpt is so popular. >> and there's been a lot of talk at well, apple needs to make the iphone sexy again, it needs to make a cool again, it's sort of become like an appendage we're all used to having the iphone weathers does ai do this? does it get in the neighborhood of doing that, making the iphone more interesting? it helps. >> i mean, if you think about it in the us, jim, the vast majority of people use apple ios devices, but abroad that's not the case. >> so what they need to do is make sure that their phone is the best smartphone out there on the market so that they can expand their dominance globally. >> and then the other thing is apple is making more and more money off of services. so like payments that you get from itunes or from buying extra cloud storage or average pricing, because hardware sales have leveled off. and so if they're investing in ai, they're hoping you're going to spend more time with the app. they can eventually serve you more ads and all of their different functions. and they can up charge you that way. >> the thing with apple is and, you know, i figured this out. this is why i saw the iphone bove is because i got the screen protector, i got the case. i don't break it anymore. so they i'm not getting new iphones every six months like i used to, but that might be affecting things. i want to work on that make them more breakable? 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>> hi, having utis for ten years. >> you, cora, we make uti relief products we also make proactive urinary tract health product. you cora is a lyptsi tried today at your core core.com and just 46 days. >> look at this, right? you're looking live at paris 5:52 a.m. the sun just breaking their behind the eiffel tower beautiful morning. there in paris, the eyes of the sports world will shine on the city of lights for the 2024 summer olympics in paris but one name will noticeably be absent from the roster. wnba rookie sensation caitlin clark instead, a dozen veterans will take the floor as team usa goes for its eight straight when pick gold medal reports indicate clark could be an alternate of a for now, she has been lofted a left off the team. her reaction to the situation, humility. take a listen honestly, no disappointment. i think it just gives you something, something to work for you know, that's a dream, you know, hopefully one day i can be there and i think it's just a little more motivation you remember that and you know, hopefully in four years when four years comes back around, i can be there but her omission or snub depending on how you see it has ignited debate in the sports world this is about what i will, i will personally label the idiocy of team usa women's basketball. how did you make this decision? it's stupid. >> stephen smith there, even the x account of the republican house judiciary committee posted quote, caitlin clark should be on the olympic team cnn sports analyst in usa today columnist christine brennan broke this news over the weekend. it was a blockbuster. she joins me now, christine, great reporting as always okay. i was saying before the break and i was told by the i believe i was told by the executive producer i'm i show that i could on this show that i can give my opinion on this and i'm going to give my opinion this stinks. yeah, this sucks. >> i'm sorry. but caitlin clark should be on this team and i'm sorry if i'm just no way you're aside here, but i am jim. you're not alone. there are millions of people who agree with you. caitlin clark is one of the most popular, if not the most popular athlete in the country, male or female? well, any sport. and this was an opportunity for usa basketball to really grow the women's game. and i can speak as someone who's been to ten summer olympics going all the way back to 1984 when i started in kindergarten. and i've covered women's basketball at every olympics and what you see in the press tribune at the gold medal game for the us women's basketball team, tumble weeds. most female sports writers they don't want anything to do with the women's basketball team. they want to cover the men or people are covering other events. you bring caitlin clark to paris and the eyeballs of the entire world are on her. >> the media coverage you're going to have reporters from all over wanted to come and see this american sensation, even if she only played four or 56 minutes again. >> and all the other players would have gotten publicity in the process. the headlines that they so richly deserve. why was she left off the team? i'm still reporting that i've talked to people. here's what we've seen in the wnba so far. >> it's been a chilly reception for caitlin clark with some of the other players might that have something to do with it? >> could, it could. i reported i have two sources actually now a third who confirmed for me that part of the conversation in the calculation of whether to put her on the team or not? was and this shock the living daylights out of me, jim, was that there was concern that if you put her on the team and she only gets a few minutes of playing time her millions of fans back in the united states and radio shows and whatever would create controversy about. now, i laughed when i first heard that i thought that cannot be something that's being you say can we say bs can i say? what can i say it at this hour? how about say enough, we should be able to say that is how about that? >> i'm sorry. >> they're not going to ask you to fill in for laurie again. >> that is like seventh grade going on fourth-grade. okay. >> the reason why she is so special and we all saw this when she was out there on on the on the court. she can he that three-point shot from so i mean, it's just unbelievable. washington du and the passes that having you and i've talked about this, what she does on the court is remarkable. >> it's the high-wire act at the circus. watch or bring the ball down, the logo 3s rebounding may be more important, but you've got five or six people down there throwing elbows and i'm a tall woman. i was the one under the basket. yeah. but for the uninitiated fan, people who are just coming to basketball, which is by the way, millions and millions of people to watch her they don't necessarily know that, but they can keep their eye on her. the singular figure down the court heaving that three, the beautiful passes and it's just great fun to watch it. as i said, it is that kind of trapeze act. and that's the entertainment value that the wnba and usa basketball, i'm not so sure that that they're thinking about but the team and about who's been there before. and you don't want to miss this up. the cohesin lock around it all of a once in a lifetime for women's sports, growing the game. think of the number. there are also other great players. >> well, that would get the attention. fabulous players that they have never gotten that as i was saying earlier, how about the 20 to us? i say jersey. >> how many would have been sold in africa, in europe, and asia the money that could have been made for youth development programs for getting more girls in the game women's sports needed this desperately and it's just a huge missed opportunity and christine, the other thing that i wanted to say about this one, i saw caitlin clark's the comments, the way she handled this class act handily perfectly, which i have to think is probably irritating the living daylights or whoever is mad at her right now. >> jim scene is taking this out on her, is 22 22,000,000,040 the weight of the world dawn staley said it took the microphone at the women's final game and said, you've been shouldering the burden for our league women's sports. >> we have never seen anyone quite like this. i mean, going back probably the billie jean king, she's bigger than the 1999 and women's world cup. and the big winner in all this at the end of the day, caitlin clark yeah, she's handling it. the sympathy, the support that she has. but again, just think of what could have been in paris and the thing that i worry about and maybe you can tell me because you know this better than i would know. i have started to worry about caitlin clark a little bit that we're going to get into one of these situations where we see these athletes and there's just so much piled on top of them because of the spotlight, because of the pressure, it can cause problems. and we've seen this, we've talked about sport, mental health of athletes from naomi osaka to michael phelps, and on it goes caitlin clark has a confidence about her that is very much in keeping with someone born in 2000 to getting full blast title nine she is also so comfortable in insider skin, so composed. i met her for the first time on friday. interviewed are for the first time and i was even more impressed and i had been from watching from far. do you think there's any chances were running out of time that they reversed this decision. >> i i think we should predict i won't put words in your i think they're going to reverse this decision. >> well, they're announcing it tomorrow and i don't think they'll do it then she would be an alternate and there could be injuries. in fact, one of the guards is injured, right now and that could be tuition. to keep an eye on because you're right. there's such an outcry and i don't think usa basketball i know for a fact, having interviewed these people, they had no idea the national outrage that they were going to unleash. there's outrage, and that is i can tell.