reference. let's talk to host of the white flag podcast joe walsh and democratic strategist maria cardona. there's a lot to go, only three days left. i can't believe we're here. what do you make of the trump iowa strategy because it contrasts significantly to say desantis'? >> it's cold in iowa. >> why, yes, there you go. >> news flash, it's cold. laura, i don't think there are any closing arguments. i campaigned in iowa four years ago hopelessly against trump. at this point it's just getting your people out. trump has a hell of an organization. desantis does, too, but donald trump this time has a great organization. so i expect his people to come out. >> it's funny because we often hear a lot about his absence in iowa. you would think that must mean he doesn't have the ground presence compared to nikki haley or someone you talked about going to all 90. what is his ground game? >> he has a campaign team