>> i think that is what it means. i think desantis, let's say he gets a close second or second or close third, he will focus on south carolina. he wants to embarrass nikki haley in her own home state because donald trump is so far had a both of them, his he can get second place in south carolina, that is a huge embarrassment for nikki haley. >> if desantis gets second in iowa, it defies expectations. >> isaac it means he does not think he is a big chance in new hampshire, he is not made a big investment in new hampshire . >> laura, it is really cold in iowa. we don't know what is going to happen, it is cold. >> i have to tell you, i'm from minnesota, we pride ourselves on being it was -10 and i went out. i wonder if it has the same effect. i don't know. >> i talked to my friend who is the chair in iowa it has not been this cold during iowa