problems with not enough truck drivers right now. >> that's why what we're doing now -- >> do you have a timetable for that? >> well, of a timetable -- first of all, i want to get the ports up and running and get the railroads and the rail heads and the trucks in port ready to move because i've gotten walmart and others to say we're going to move stuff off of the port into our warehouses. >> but are you actually talking about having national guardsmen and women driving trucks? >> the answer is yes, if we can't move -- increase the number of truckers, which we're in the process of doing. if we did it this moment. but the whole point is we've got to get the small business as well because the big guys are in trouble and a lot of the product that your mother makes, the product -- the things she does in her interior design building, the material, she buys from the larger outfits. i assume. i don't know that. but my whole point is small businesses need the help badly. small businesses make up 60% of all the revenue coming from business out there.