road today to talk about job training for the new economy. don't expect much, if anything, on the indictment of future rival donald trump. with me to share his insights is david axelrod, who have the architect of the two obama-winning campaigns. thank you for your time. none of us have been here. there's nothing in your rolodex on how to deal with a campaign where the former president of the united states is facing a federal indictment and also happens to be the front runner for the other party's no nomination. if joe biden picks you up and say how do i handle this, what would you say? >> do exactly what he said today. do nothing. do not answer questions about this. do not involve yourself. that's exactly what donald trump and the president's opponents want. you can see on their postings on social media where they are going. the president himself has sort of describing this as a hit job directed by president biden to take out his number one opponent.