grievances they are out to get me does rally his base without a doubt. >> without a doubt. which is why you are seeing some caution, in some respects, which you look at his competitors for 2024, and others like his biggest competitor just completely going all in with weaponization. and playing to the same kind of people who would and do support donald trump. there are few, maybe asa hutchinson is the only one, who has gone full this guy should not be president of the united states. and it does speak to how what you're hearing and how absolutely interested the base is in getting riled up about the fbi and about these investigations. >> so the nine other candidates in the races with donald trump have to make a choice. the terrain may change once we see the charges and things go forward, but they have to make a