you have people who are trying to essentially politically neutralize this for the white house, to say, hey, you have a working mom, someone interested in criminal defense. experience that isn't on the bench right now. the way we'll neutralize this is by basically holding any and every client or issue against her, which is why there are so few people with criminal defense backgrounds on the federal bench in general. we saw that weaponized. but we're also seeing this movement to basically say, hey, this isn't going to be a win for this white house. by the time these hearings are over, the google search term will be for child porn, right, not for anything else, not for thurgood marshall, not for any of the aspects of this hearing that i think the white house hoped would be sort of more at the forefront. >> yeah. i mean, even if they can't stop the nomination, they can change the narrative around the nomination. >> not just change it. they can bruise her up on the way -- >> absolutely. thank you all for that