cnn's abby phillips. julie hirschfeld-davis, that is a snapshot of how donald trump sees the world. can you help me? what is the other side on january 6th? his supporters stormed the capitol. who is the other side that he wants punished? the police officers who were railroaded, beaten, hurt, a couple killed? is it mike pence? is it mike pence? they screamed hang mike pence. is it nancy pelosi? they were looking for her. how does donald trump see the other side in the insurrection? >> i think we're looking for logic in what he is saying here. it's a fool's errand. i think what he's trying to convey is he feels that he is on the side of the people who breached the capitol and the people who rioted and the people who stormed that building and sent lawmakers and the vice president running for their lives. i suppose if you were to have an extended conversation with him and asked him to explain he might be talking about antifa or