they talked about how this was a day that they had been anticipating because they felt like it was a day of justice potentially for them, but, look, the attorneys for the three defendants have already said that they do plan to appeal and just next month the federal trial for the hate crime charges against all three of these men will begin hear in brunswick, and i'm not sure. you may be able to hear or see behind me there are people who have like shown up, and they are showing their support to the family here. the attorney for travis mcmichael said today to the judge that they were hoping that they would have some story of redemption here for the mcmichaels and also for the arbery family. at that point ahmaud arbery's father looked hat his attorney and gave him a look and that's what we're dealing with at this point. we do expect it to be finished sometime today. diane gallagher. we know the court hearing will resume at the top of the hour. thank you. let's get some perspective. were you with us many times