powerpoints, things like that, right? >> yes. >> some of them also included reviewing policies and other documents, right? >> yes. >> and then there was also the hands-on training, the practical components, things like using drawing -- drawing weapons, things like that, right? >> yes. >> and over the course of your career you completed many, many, many hours of training, right? >> yes. >> and in terms of credit hours, we're talking somewhere in the ballpark of 1,700 credit hours. does that sound right? >> i don't know the number of hours, but if that's what you have, that would be probably right. >> no reason to dispute that. your training hours would have been in the thousand of hours over that 26-year career, right? >> yes. >> you indicated that there