most. having said that, if you are somebody who is prone to click bait which is what kamala harris is, you've got to expect that that is going to happen and kind of role with it. >> reporter: you're at the white house and something she says every day of the united states. she's grateful he was vice president, gets the role, appreciates and understands the role and he's extremely supportive and influences a great -- that has influenced a great deal what this experience has been for me. there's been talk of dissatisfaction among time biden with team hair. they said that about clinton and gore and bush and cheney and obama and biden but what's the most interesting piece of it? >> i think the most interesting piece is the long-term question of whether kamal heirs hairs has a politician can translate into real world appeal, all the strengths on paup. she seems to have an ideal