things like that. i want you to listen to your friend talking about politics. >> i have voted democratic over the years. i've voted republican. i always try to find the person that i think is best qualified for the highest office in the land. i believe that our country is best served when there are two strong parties. that's what makes this country great, and they can debate those points of view. i think we run into dangerous territory in this country when the two ends of the political spectrum become so dug in and nasty and everything is ad hominem and driven by cable television and blogs and all kinds of other things that our positions get so hardened that we can't find a way toward the center which is where the country is. >> that was 12 years ago, rather prescient of where we are now, even worse on steroids in terms of our political conversations, but to it the idea of politics and colin powell, he got pretty serious thinking about it but then decided he didn't want to get in, why?