suburbs. the democrats are the party of the coast, huge on both coasts but in the middle of america, ezra klein in the "new york times" wrote about it based on the democratic data analyst, democrats need to internalize that they are not liked and do not understand the voters he needs to win over. swing voters in these state, the midwestern industrial states are not liberals, not woke, do not see the world in the way that the people who staff and donate to the democratic campaigns do. it is an issue when you are a bigger family that you have, a, more disagreements, but it's more complicated for the urban democrats to talk to you. you wrote about this, in a different context, i'll show you the map, separate report about the democratic problems in factory states, industrial states. this report looked at ten states, including upstate new york. you think of new york city where democrats have a huge problem because they are losing touch with essentially voters who work with their hands. >> yeah. you can look at these communities that were historically big manufacturing communities, strong presence of organized labor, and both of those things have collapsed the