the courthouse this they cannot be tannished. these what you think of as a constitutional trial. only two people stood in the way of a murderous suicide pact. that's ridiculous. >> this is dick durbin, the top democrat on the judiciary committee, which on the senate side is doing this work. again, you can get numb hearing this. you keep hearing the trump told a big lie, and in a moment i'll tell you he's doing the big lie. think about this this is the president of the united states trying to cling to power. listen to dick durbin. >> when the president was teergt on the precipice of whether or not he was going to remove the acting attorney general jeffrey rosen and replace him with jeffrey clarke, it was cipollone who spoke up that said what they were trying to achieve was a murder-suicide pact and that the president should not do that. >> think about the january 6th committee on the house side trying to go deeper into the facts here.