of representatives will be governing from that standpoint. and that's something i think people at home should be thinking about. >> if you remember right after the impeachment vote, the ten especially said we will be fine. we will survive. you would have to say on this day, on this day anyway, trump is winning this argument. in republican politics. >> yeah. and look, i think this sets up a midterm showdown next year in 2022. it's going to be as significant in the republican party as any i can recall. think about 2010 and 2014. the so-cawed tea party versus the elephant primaries. that looks small compared to what next year is going to be. if those nine house members plus murkowski who is the only senator in the gop who voted to convict can survive, that will say a lot. >> but is there any -- >> is there any evidence that kevin mccarthy, insert laughter here, or mitch mcconnell, it's a more nuanced question, are willing to stand up to trump and say stop this?