no pushback on the other side that makes it a harder political argument in some ways. there was a tweet that biden put out last week in the aftermath of trump's arrest saying that nothing -- i think today is a great day to give to my campaign. what do you make of that? >> it is sort of -- it is one of the war shack tests, you could read into it what you want to. it is the day after debate or is he saying trump is about to get the perp walk. i think it is both good politics and good governance to stay away from politicizing and getting involved in what the justice department is doing. but on the other hand, joe biden is a candidate for re-election. he's not taking a month's oath never to invoke politics and this is the line that he's strad straddling right now. as trump becomes the nominee, there is going to come a time