that is why biden knows that he's got an economic message to work on, a working class voter message to work on, a message to young people to work on. he has a lot of work to do. >> we'll talk about biden too later in the program. because he has a lot of problems himself here. >> it is hard being an incumbent. in this urncountry that is so divided. and he has a lot of things that he's passed legislatively and people are feeling the effects of those things and when you're 40%, you are what you are. and it doesn't seem like the message is making a department so how they're going to convince people, the biggest thing is the contrast. it is not just biden and what he's done, it is the contrast of the biden versus a guy who has been indicted four times and a party that is sort of representative of chaos. >> and it is clear that a lot of democrats want that contrast. but a lot them wanted it in 2016 and you see what happened there. okay, next, the political fight in the 2024 race has the