and processed and spend another 20 minutes recapping the experience on newsmax. >> i came in and i was treating very nicely. but it is what it is. i took a mug shot. which i never heard the words mug shot. that wasn't -- didn't teach me at the wharton school of finance. i went through an experience today that i never thought that i would go to through. but then i've gone through the same experience three other times. in my whole life, i didn't know anything about indictment and now i've been indicted like four times. >> all right, let's discuss this and monther with eva mckend, eli stokols and mario parker and margaret talev from axios. so a lot about -- this is a historic moment. we've been saying this a lot because there is a lot of history made this year including first mug shot for a former president here. this is how john bolton, trump's former national security adviser described that mug shot.