manchin thinks we're giving too much money from the government and expanding government too much and that's leading to inflation making it harder to get people to be able to afford their everyday needs. so those very fundamental very major differences in policy thoughts makes it harder for biden to come with, get everyone in the back room and figure it out. >> i just want to talk about that because the new cnn poll, you take a look at kind of where democrats and independents land on things, and you kind of get into maybe what senator manchin is looking at versus what bernie sanders is looking at. would you have all safety net policies, climate change policies. independents only 30%. includes fewer policies, democrats only 20%. not pass any bill at all, democrats 4%, independents at 32%. it's not democrat versus democrat there. democrats are very behind these proposals.