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voted for terrible trade agreements, you don't think trump would be talking about that? when you have candidates who are not going to lower the cost of health care for people, which many of my opponents are not, okay, that is a real vulnerability. >> so i guess my question, guys -- and again, we've been locked in the capitol building for three months, so forgive us if there's ignorance on this level. is there a bernie sanders surge right now? we've seen a number of headlines. or is he just where he's always been and other people have floated up and down? >> i think a big part of it is that bernie support has remained stable. the people who like him really like him. they liked him in '16, they're not going anywhere. when you look at polling from the early states, people who say they've made their mind up and aren't changing their mind, those numbers are much higher for sanders. which suggests his support is real locked in.

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