we have a lot of people to look at, including jobs, frankly, because it's become a pretty big industry. >> the jobs part, you can see in the evolution, now they're coming to the president to say this job is at stake here. that was a pretty big flip in a pretty short amount of time. >> it definitely is. it's something where we've seen other examples of this after several mass shootings, for example, he said he was going to introduce something on guns and nothing ever happened. this was something that even a lot of people around him thought he was serious about this. he has a son that is around the age that could start doing vaping and things. this was clearly a reversal because his political aides said it's not popular. also his charm and appeal is not regulating and he doesn't want to be seen as the sheriff, if you will, so for those reasons, but i think it seems not necessarily what the first lady had said she was going to influence him on.