i got something important wrong. i got something important really wrong. >> it's interesting timing that the mayor would apologize for that now, but that was a wrong policy. i guess it's better late than never. >> smart? >> sure, it's essential if kwlur actually going to run in the democratic primary which, by all accounts, he absolutely is. his adviser says this is going to be coming very soon. he has to do that to at least open the doors of changing minds of african leaders and others, but it's hard to think this is nothing other than a strategic play. he is a numbers guy. there's been plenty of information, academic studies, judicial studies to say, look, the policy just created a disproportional effect here. but doing it on a sunday in a brooklyn church seems pretty political. >> seems pretty political. and how would it be to be jerome powell and walk into the oval office for a meeting with the white house.