inertia. but there is definitely sentiment among the president's aides that they need to get in line in their smear campaign. they need to do more than smear yavonovich and volcker. >> he's sending a signal there that i don't have a choice, mr. president. i don't have a choice, mr. president's team. and right now he's not happy because the white house kept telling him there's nothing in this ukraine transcript. well, then release it. they released it. and there's a lot in the ukraine transcript. katy, do they send it to the white house? they are nervous about where this is going, number one, factually, because they're worried about what kurt volcker and the ambassador will say to the committee. and number two, they're worried the president's team is not prepared for this. >> and there's worry in the thinking of the president and his aides and allies.