blocking, and they don't like the white house is even interjecting into this process. they have to turn over this information because that's what the law says. there is a lot of pent-up frustration and i think that's why you see the proverbial dam breaking. yes, he talked about his political opponent in a call with a foreign leader, but also the fact the whistleblower complaint has been withheld and it does seem like the white house is stonewalling. >> i think that's an important point because there are two different arguments. one is that if the president did something in terms of his conversations or with the ukranian president or the withholding of the information, that's grounds for impeachment. if the white house is refusing to comply with the law in turning stuff over to congress,