>> did you take an initial vote to see where everybody was? >> we did. >> so where was everybody -- how was that first vote? >> we had three not guilties, one second-degree murder, and two manslaughters. >> so half the jury felt he was not guilty, two manslaughters, and one second-degree? >> exactly. >> can you see -- do you want to say where you were on that? >> i was not guilty. >> so going into it, at -- once all the evidence had been presented, you felt he was not guilty? >> i did. i think the medical examiner could have done a better job at presenting trayvon's -- preserving trayvon's evidence issue >> the state medical examiner -- >> i mean the state. they should have bagged his hands, they should have dried his clothes. they should have done a lot of things they didn't do. >> do you feel you know truly what happened? >> i have a rendition of what i believe happened and i think