bidens. >> that presents a risk to a lot of folks who tried to put distance between themselves claiming ignorance and kurt volker running the policy saying he wasn't quite sure this was the connection there, although others have said the connection was clear. i think that's one big headline here. but the questions will be, was there a quid pro quo? was this meeting with the president and the military aid tied to really -- you go to a requirement to have the investigations to get these things and, two, was that at the direction of the president? he's going to be asked that directly. does he give clear answers to those questions for someone who wasn't just observing but was directly involved in those conversations. >> if he does completely, you know, go against what the president has been saying, that the phone conversation was perfect, there was no quid pro quo, everything is great, how damaging potentially for the president could this be? >> that's what i'm looking at. at the beginning of this inquiry, the president held on to every republican in the