plane. or they want to see markings. they want to seat black box. they want to see what's on that floor before they see anything else. but they do say it could lead to an answer. now, there was a meeting today between the chinese families and three americans who came over on their own to speak with the families. and they have personal experience from past airplane accidents. and this was the kind of insight that's very valuable to these family members. one american woman lost her parents in an airplane crash over north carolina. she was only 5 years old at the time. another woman lost her husband on september 11th in the word trade center. and they encouraged the chinese families to push for more answers. and also they talk about their experiences and how they tried to get over the grief. one relative, steve weng, who you know now, talked about what was the most valuable piece of advice he got from the