are looking for some facts, for something they can hold on to, the truth about the flight and why the malaysian prime minister made this call that the plane did go down in -- somewhere in the southern indian ocean yesterday. that question was pretty much put to the australian defense minister today, just how confident are you that the plane did, indeed, come down here and he said i'm confident based on the information we have available. so there is still very much a slither, a tiny, tiny percentage of doubt. there has to be because it's still based on technical data, on information until they get a positive i.d., a firm sighting on a piece of debris that links it to the flight they can't be 100% sure, obviously. so it is a question which is being asked not only in china but here in australia as well. coming back to what the minister and the vice chief of the military cheer in australia was saying today, there was a press