it off. you never think carl would be with halston. i mean, physically, mentally, anything. when he came in, in a very strange way, halston liked him a lot. he kept saying i have never had the right kind of management. and that's part of our problem. and he gives me a kiss on the forehead. it was wonderful. and then he says you're now the king. and he made with his own hands the crown that he gave me. >> halston i think honestly believed that carl epstein was going to mediate with big business, but i remember thinking to myself, well, there are two men in this room, but there is only one king at