get the terrorists? so there was a lot of collateral damage and i'm afraid people in the u.s. did not really -- the public didn't know the amount of collateral damage. we bore the brunt because what happened was we were considered collaborators of the u.s., so all the revenge attacks were against the pakistani soldiers, against the people of pakistan. there were suicide attacks going all over the -- we lost 80,000 people. >> but the u.s. has withdrawn and the terror continues. >> much less, fareed. you can't compare now -- i mean, during the height of this war on terror we were -- islamabad was a fortress. you had suicide attacks going everywhere. compared to what used to happen now, you know, terrorism is -- is almost insignificant now. when we come back i will ask