burgers and not because it is interest, and this is part of what i think should happen, people like meat, i'm not here to tell anybody it is not delicious. but what it is doing to the planet, what it is going to the animals and to our pandemic and antibiotic risk is something that should worry all of us. >> so let's talk about that. something in the range of 80 billion animals are slaughtered every year for meat. what do we know about the suffering and what do we know about the climate effects? >> yeah, that is not just land animals, but 80 billion land animals slaughtered, most of them chicken. it is not possible to raise and concentrate, pack together animals at any other time because we didn't have the technology. the animals we eat are not technologies, that they're not