states, but we also have the biggest trading links with china, as well as the united states. what do you think the world of technology looks like if the united states continues on the path of the trump administration, which is banning huawei, fearing there's going to be, you know, the chinese technology will have within it a kind of espionage component. will you end up with a bipolar world of two technology systems? >> it was heading in that direction. i think if you take this attitude, it cannot stop with huawei, because it's basically you don't trust them, and you have reason to doubt whether everything can be taken at face value. by the same token, they are unable to trust you, and they will ask why do we allow your operating systems, your chips, your technology to rule our economy? and we become hostage to you. so if you're going this way, you must end up bifurcated across a