huge numbers of evangelicals, totally unprrepresentative of ts country. why do they go first? >> you can make the argument that iowa is the worst place to start the process except for every place else. the benefit that iowa has is that you can conquer the state. you can't conquer texas. iowa, you can drive up to souix county and meet the people and learn it. you've got to organize people to show up. it really is a test of a campaign's ability to get things done in a way that isn't as true in other states. >> what do you think? what are people focusing on which is the wrong way to think about this right now? >> i think people look at who is at the top of the polls and they're very impressed with donald trump having 25% of the polls and that's just not that much historically.