you know -- and let me say it, who cares? right. who cares about my feelings or carmen rinehart's feelings or ken rogoff's feelings. we are having an economic crisis, long-term unemployment with the united states. i don't think that -- i don't think the question of how civil a bunch of comfortable academic economists who went to m.i.t. in the mid-1970s i don't think that matters at all. compared to the question of the subsative issues and are we doing this wrong, which i think we are. >> paul krugman, thanks for coming on. a fascinating fly on the wall look inside north korea. vice tv was there in february and we have exclusive footage. right back. ck?