strategists, whether it's todd, blanche, or boris epshteyn? i have no idea who the legal strategist is, but i've now coined my own sort of phrase to go against the todd blanche, donald trump gloat the greatest liar of all time. and i call him a slope, the stupidest lawyer of all time because anybody that would allow donald trump to create their own strategy for a defense in a case like this, after he's gotten beaten, so bad hadley, again and again and again, is clearly stupid. >> alright on the issue of telling the truth. >> and there's a lot i want to talk about here because it's important, but on the after the verdict, trump's attorney blanche, he asked the judge to set aside the verdict. nope. and acquit trump and the reason that blanche said this is quote, there's no basis and there's no way this jury could have reached a verdict without a accepting the testimony of mr. cohen. and we believe unequivocally that that testimony, even though it would stand in this courtroom, that he lied there was perjury committed did you lie under