sunlight and transparency because you have nothing to hide. you take these positions because you are welcoming fraud and welcoming illegal voting. we want every legal vote to be counted and we want every illegal vote -- >> we have to be very clear. the other side is welcoming fraud and illegal voting. unless she has more details to back that up, i cannot continue showing you this. i want to make sure that maybe they do have something to back that up but that is an explosive charge to make. >> the brand team at fox corporation notifies senior fox news leadership of the brand threat by his action. they send a note saying this is a threat to the brand. >> not only the brand team but -- who is a veteran. in part just because they overlapped, the trumpet ministration itself was so --. what is fascinating to me is