fein also detailed this a year ago in his newly scrutinized podcast. >> there was security. armed security to protect us and other officials from the republican party of wisconsin were there. we had a meeting room reserved and that's where we met to cast our ballots in the electoral college. each of us cast a ballot for president of the united states, and we cast a ballot for vice president of the united states. in the event that something would transpire legally here, where the outcome in wisconsin would be reversed, then our ballots would be sent to washington, d.c., and those would be the ballots that get counted. >> i thought they were going on a magical-mystery tour from listening to them. i mean, the reality the legal situation is that what they were about to do but had absolutely no legal forks at all. >> longtime republican election lawyer ben ginsberg, despite that, and repeated court losses across the country, fake electors from multimillion swing