me back. i think the committee has been cautious about predicting who will and will not cooperate. but there is nothing partisan about a congressional committee making criminal referrals. it is a common practice and, erin, if the evidence indicates that crimes were committed, it's vitally important that the 1-6 committee send that evidence and its legal analysis to the justice department and we heard from the attorney general last week. he was care -- careful and he was measured that, um, he will not play any favorites, that he will do justice in this case. so, he's ready to receive. um, i think that it's mike pence who may be playing a little bit of politics here, getting a little bit of cold feet. but let's remember, we have seen this dance back and forth before. we need to see how it plays out. but the committee must make those referrals. >> and, dana, you know, it's