seemed down about it. you said when you tried to talk to your republican friends in the senate, they either tried to change the subject. they wouldn't talk about it. and you said it's been frankly quite difficult to get anyone to concede that the president's defense stands in tatters. have any of your republican friends since then told you that they might vote to convict trump. have you sensed any change? >> no. what's striking to me is how a number of my colleagues who when the whistleblower report was initially covered in the press said, oh, well, if that happened, that clearly would be a bad thing for america, that might well be impeachable. there's no one that i have spoken with in the republican caucus today who is saying they believe president trump committed an impeachable offense. that's because they're, i think , redefining what is an impeachable defense downward, yeah, he might have put pressure