burisma or their aid will not be released. >> if that is revealed is that enough -- >> what about mick mulvaney saying it from the podium at the white house saying it was that. >> he said a portion of that and he didn't say all that and then he did walk it back, but the issue is -- remember the whistle-blower came forward and they didn't say and the whistle-blower didn't say that there was this quid pro quo and the aid and these investigations. they said there was quid pro quo that you must dig up dirt on my opponent and there was no direct knowledge of the things, and these are people that we've had depositions for and it's not changed other than the testimony that you've read of the telephone call as to how it was reported. >> the testimony has largely backed up what the whistle-blower has said. >> you don't know that. you haven't seen any of it. >> we've seen many of the opening statement. we sautee lorw taylor's opening