obviously there are a lot of with joe biden and the debunked pictures with the president with a lot of people and these are conspira repetitive events and this ties conspiracy theories about ukraine's role in went ballisti back for trump's attempt to get dirt from joe biden from ukraine. >> right. >> yeah. exactly. one of the broader questions >> was john bolton ballistic that's being asked tonight, erin because he being not believe is whether or not the effort to this was happening and had a problem with it? >> i think bolton, as smear joe biden was perhaps controversial as he was as a another influence operation, national security adviser, he foreign influence operation was very critical of russia and itself. was it perhaps something that very supportive of ukraine and people we don't know about, perhaps the russians, people who he saw what jewel yaen was doing are pro-russian business people and what these two ambassadors were doing as derailing what he in ukraine were behind funding regarded as a very important some of this. again, those are the questions policy, and he blows up over that are being asked because the that meeting in particular fbi and prosecutors in manhattan don't believe that we have a because there's a reference. full explanation yet about where this money was coming from. lo >> all right. sondland, they're meeting with a ukrainian delegation and going after the pre-approved talking thank you very much, evan, and i want to get straight to jim acosta who is traveling with the points and sondland goes off script and starts talking about president tonight. trump very clearly trying to ukraine re-opening distance himself from a person investigations that had been that he seemed thrilled for a closed and he doesn't use the