second choice, warren crushes biden 42 to 30. she kills when it comes to that. what does that tell you? is this concerning for joe biden? >> i think it's concerning for all of the candidates who are not elizabeth warren, right? but i also know that i think in that same poll, only 20% of people have their mind made up. so it's one poll. it's a poll that demonstrates that you have to have a big presence on the ground in iowa. i think you're seeing a lot of these candidates really amp up their commitment to iowa. so we'll see what happens. i just -- i don't think you can say it's all over, because it's just too far out. but i do think that for those candidates who are getting small numbers, i know we're going to talk about the dnc thresholds in these early states. it is a moment to have yourself really do a gut check. is this where i should be spending my personal time? >> what do you say, jess? 42 to 30? >> i totally agree, these are