so the point of me saying that is that the doctors here, and i'm a doctor here, i practice in the system, were culpable to some extent, as well. buying into the messaging, as deceptive as it was, and jim, let me just show you, as much as we talk about the settlements, let me show you the numbers in terms of what we're talking about, in terms of the number of lives that have been lost here between 1997 and 2017. jim, 702,000 overdose deaths of those prescription opioids. this is on par with the aids epidemic. so that's also worth pointing out. there are lots of terrible tragic stories of families being torn apart by this. >> families, whole communities, generation, life expectancy shortened to some degree as a result of this. >> that's right. >> always good to have you on the story, dr. sanjay gupta, thanks very much. >> thank you, jim. "outfront" next, trump pushing to hold the next g-7