my wife has told me, don't cry. don't cry. but marco rubio makes me cry for joy. >> i'm not sure anyone quite believes the friendship is still warm anymore. what is the state of your relationship? >> not on our part it isn't. i'm running for president. i'm not running against jeb or anyone else in this race. >> so if someone said, look, jeb was your friend, he was your mentor, he helped you get elected, he helped you raise money. some might say this is a betrayal. couldn't you have waited for another election? >> well, i don't see the presidency that way. i don't think there's a line where we all wait and just hand the presidency off to each other because you've paid your dues. i'm running for president because i don't see anyone else on either side who's campaigning on the agenda and the views i have. i don't view the presidency as some sort of honor ifk office that you just step aside and let someone else move forward. this is not that kind of thing.