the prosecutors wanted to admit, evidence that he had shot other individuals, evidence that he had supposedly committed murder. and this judge is nope to be a fairly appellate-proof in a ruling. so i think it's going to be tougher because of who the judge was and the rulings she gave, but do you have good lawyers and always has a chance. >> mark what about the other double homicide? in a sense it doesn't matter right, unless he whips his appeal because he is already in jail for the rest of his life. >> in that sense, it doesn't matter. i can tell you right now the prosecution is going to go forward on that case and they are going to probably get a conviction in that the evidence that we know to date seems even stronger in that case that it did in this case that he was just convicted on. not going to give him a free pass because there is the possibility of an appeal, though i agree with tom, this judge insulated herself from any potential appeal by the way she handled the prosecution's case. >> thanks so much to both of you. coming up at the top of the hour anderson has an exclusive interview with some of the jurors in the aaron hernandez trial. make sure you stick around for