discussing tonight and the plane may be further north than it normally was, but it wasn't in restricted air space. >> but miles' point was its normal route would have -- >> other people are flying through that air space as well. if you look at all the aviation that's going that way over crimea, the faa regulation or the restriction and the esa and all of them. >> you're saying lots of airlines. >> absolutely, absolutely. lots of airlines are flying over ukraine, not tonight any more they are. the wish and the rush before we even know what, why and where borders on indecent. >> miles, let me ask you what we'll learn from flight data recorder here? will we get answers to some of these questions. >> flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder. the voice recorder might be very telling for us.