said. shelley, you're a certified addiction specialist. what do you make of this interaction john is talking about what philip seymour hoffman said to him. he said what's your name. i'm a heroin addict. >> he was obviously intoxicated and he was obviously not functioning well because he was probably on heroin at the time. and in addition to drinking, you know, there's no telling what your behavior will become like. and that sounds consistent with the ability for somebody to be under the influence and maybe reaching out or maybe just accidentally putting it out there, but i'm sure it was a very bizarre experience because that's how this works. you can't really understand what they're taking because have you no frame i have reference for heroin addiction generally speaking so these people are on heroin and you don't know what's wrong but you know something's off. >> john, how did you look to you? you're saying that the word was going around he wasn't quite right. you talk about a floppy hat.