>> with respect to jeffrey, i disagree. she said her first mind was second degree murder. so being sequestered, sitting in that courtroom, she made the determination her verdict was second degree murder. so maybe the five people wore her down and that may be the case. >> that's clearly the case. >> i just wanted to say to mark's point that i believe the instructions are confusing in a lot of ways. so what you want the jury to do is be empowered. i thank the prosecutors for being the case, because a lot of prosecutors wouldn't have brought this case no matter what the evidence was. >> i agree with jeff's point about the fact when you have a sequestered jury and nobody thought this was going to gape the traction it did, and that normally you would think that's what is happening here, you're hearing a reverse sour grapes or recriminations. but the fact is, she did hold out. she did send out -- or they sent out that note, and the fact remains that the prosecution, in their closing argument, was all emotion, and very little on the instructions and little on the