emphasize, that's one juror. the oth jurors have distanced themselves from her more generally. that's what she's saying happened in that sequestered jury. but as you know, people like al sharpton are saying the verdict was an atrocity, using words like that. do you think race played a role in the decision? there are those who say, well, look, this was a six-person jury, five of them were white, one of them was black, and hispanic, and they're now saying that race played a role in the verdict. but you're sitting here on the show as a black man saying, i think it was the right verdict. >> well, i think race played a factor in mr. zimmerman's mind. but as far as just the evidence, i agree with the verdict on just the evidence alone. at some point trayvon martin started punching on mr. zimmerman. and sadly, he shot him. but just on the evidence alone i can't disagree with the verdict.